If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. Chris Watts' Parents He has a sister named Jamie Lynn Williams. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. I think that Chris wanted to save face. That isnt even what happened. , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. SW would have been smart (and kind and generous and all those other nice qualities she did not display toward her husband) in acknowledging how important CWs family was *to him* and making a strenuous effort to include them and build a friendly relationship with them. She was far to good for them. Nonetheless why risk it? This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. Secondly, my impression while researching the Scott Peterson case was that the Petersons didnt think that much of Laci, or Lacis family. Cheers Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. They lived in different States and only had to put up with each other for a little while. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far. The wedding invitations the sister was in charge of but delibertely didnt mail out. But to just not send them? I had a mother in law like Cindy Watts. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? Unless you have ever been victimized by a narcissistic toxic family, you really have no understanding of the level of dysfunction happening to the targeted victim. I think that alot of the animus was the gaslighting of the invitations for the engagement party. We are not here to ask for leniency and are not in any way condoning or tolerating the crime that has occurred or the pain that has been caused their attorney read. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. She even waited for her husband to run out of the house on an errand to expose CeCe to the nuts. Yes, a lot of mom denial. But he was afaird to speak up..why Shanann He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. I mean are you for real? A pregnant woman in her 15th week, just getting home at 1:48am from a business trip, who was already in the separation process, isnt going to snap and kill her two children. All Rights Reserved. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? There can also be a rhyme and reason to insanity, and its true crimes mission to find those rhymes and reasons. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. Yes, I can understand that Cindy might be in denial but I cannot understand her lack of compassion for Shanann -even after her death, Cindy acts like her daughter-in-law deserved it. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. Pussy whipped? Video obtained by DailyMail.com shows the moment Chris Watts returned home from burying his wife and disposing of his daughters' bodies in an oil tank only to learn that Shanann's best friend had . I think the doctor told her it was a slight nut allergy not carry an epipen/anaphylactic shock type nut allergy. A mother not attending her sons wedding is HUGE. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. I asked Chris, If you did not do this, do not confess to something you didnt do,' Cindy told ABC7 at the time. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. Others on his approved list from 2019 include parents Ronnie and Cynthia Watts, sister Jamie Williams and three other friends. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. I think you might be spot on. She didnt take away my son, I dont own him. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. Only the ones that truly lived it. Its that simple. She looks horrible by what she said in the interview and sandi rzucheks letter in discovery of what went on. Your Content is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. No one would attend if one of their kids got thrown out of the wedding. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. Thats all I mean. I mean, this was planned in advance. Do you think Shanann would place nuts in some kids ice cream when she knew they were severely allergic to nuts like Cindy Watts did to Celeste?? It was related to the small child of a girlfriend. Its been nearly three years since Chris Watts pleaded guilty to murdering his pregnant wife,Shanann Watts, and their two daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, but his family still isnt convinced hes a killer. She lost her marbles because a kid sat down with another kid and started eating some ice cream they got from the freezer. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. What a shitty thing to do. Thats what regular folks do. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. Especially those girls..Indeed she loathed Shanann, but not her grand daughters. That had nothing to do with it. Cindy Watts was in a power game that she couldnt win. The day that bitch died was the best day ever, Cindy watts was toxic to that marriage. The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts' - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe Share 20K views 3 years ago #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts #Thrive Chris. Its practically unheard of unless family is estranged and in this case I dont think any of them were. What pictures did you use for the service? Watts asked his mother during the explosive one-on-one two-hour special. Great relationship, so its hard for me to picture dynamics like what Shanann and Cindy had. Thanks for the link JC. Nothing special. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. Chris Watts got flowers for me yesterday for fun, Shanann Watts says on Thanksgiving Day. I can see responsibility on both sides the mother to be mature and wise enough to accept the sons choice of wife, and the new wife working to accept her husbands family but in this case, ShanAnns the one who ended up paying the price. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. What she did do is add to our fami,y and gave me two awesome grandsons. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. Agree with all of the above. Total narcissism. Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. Shannan was a threat to the Narc Family. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. It is a well documented mindset and interesting factoid, many of these murders take place on Sundays in August. Its one thing to say you will do something and then change your mind. Dont ever babysitok? If they got along great, then thats a possible theory. Chris Watts was done with his wife and children so he slaughtered them. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. Frankie William Rzucek These cookies do not store any personal information. I think over time with the unsettling dynamics in the house, Chris immediate family, her family, Chris parent, sister, all full of animosity towards each other, bothered Chris. THANK YOU. Cookie Notice The prison exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga. For more information, please see our I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? I agree. Im sure there are many more Secrets on the Rzucek family.. .. side This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. She waited for that opportunity to do something so evil and ugly when nobody was around to see it. She looks so peaceful, so solemn.. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side. At the very least, he may have felt theyd be inclined to forgive him given their own difficulties with Shanann, and certainly, Ronnie Watts has already told the media, If hes guilty, I can live with that.. Were all just people. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Also apparently Frankie receiving death threats and some really nasty messages.. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. If only Chris got a divorce. Oct 31 2015. No, thats not quite right either. Save his life and life in prison to me, theres no difference. We didnt attend because Shanann and I just couldnt get along. Hold on. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. Would you let her walk around a tall building with no railing? Cindy KNEW about the nut allergy, but did not believe it was serious, so she left chocolate out for the 3-year-old to get into and fed her peanut ice cream. [Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home]. He should get death penalty. That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. But she disregarded the allergies. Their behavior spoke volumes. Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. Go ahead and make up stuff. So, Shannans reaction was on point. New comments cannot be posted. But couple all those angry feelings and then having to pay attention to 2 toddlers and work a taxing job, have a wife who is not really a good match for you who wants to separate you from your familyif he wasnt the type for this kind of lifestyle I could see how that would drive someone crazy. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Hes going to die in prison. Part 5 is here: https://youtu.be/sjHc-ijQjXUWhy is it that Chris Watts's parents (Cindy Watts and Ronnie Watts) and and his sister (Jamie Lyn Williams) treat. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. She works with patients in home care. He experienced freedom while they were gone, and when they got back, he was probably overtaken by resentment that they stood between him and the mistress. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. Archived post. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! He's also said it over the phone to people. Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding. Im not going to name them. His former mistress on Inside Edition said they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? "Do you have any idea where she is?" Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. Shananns family are so nice and normal compared to Chriss. And if you read Chris and Shannans communications she was just a very strong woman who was perhaps on the self centered side, and while she loved Chris, I dont think she knew or understood how domineering she could be. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. Then there was a totally separate event an engagement party thrown by ShanAnns maid of honor Nichole Canady, which his family had zero part of. Her Thrivinga bomb waiting to go off. Cindy said they didnt go because she hated Shanann even back then, and was angry because Chris would not obey her wish for him to stop being with her. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) as shown by the way he disposed of his childrens bodies, you can plainly see that he never actually felt anything close to human emotion towards them. Maybe they are a bunch of people with personality disorders, but even people with personality disorders have their reasons to do bad stuff and even justify every bad stuff they do. Only someone who is mad could possibly kill his whole family. I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. Jamies husband has worked hard getting his job. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister, Jamie? She suffered enough. 34-year-old Chris Watts pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and other charges in the killings of his wife, Shanann, 34, and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before crudely disposing of them at a isolated site where he worked. I just want him to fight. I would like to understand too, if he killed his kids, and I think he did, why he did it. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. And the parents learn to compromise for the sake of their children. Was Shannan a saint? Shanann was still in Colorado in June. You sound like one of those men who spend a lot of time online whining on about women. And was it just me or was it in poor taste (to say the least), Jamie talking to Chris about her kids and what they've been doing, pretending as if he HADN'T JUST MURDERED HIS OWN CHILDREN, JAMIE'S OWN NIECES?! She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. Locked post. Reliable enough to trust about nuts. Archived post. We know what she was like. Bothe women were pregnant and both were financially strapped. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Mothers Day fell on May 12th. What if Chris hatred of Shanann was misplaced? So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. Maybe one day, snapped Watts. It was more about the supervision for Shannan than it was about anything else and she flipped her lid and the kids were hiding behind the curtains because they were scared. Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. Did Shanann know too? I think its the most reasonable one on here. His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. I cant imagine how shanann is the one being attacked but not his mother, sister, or mistress. You are the first person who has suggested this. I am not doing a book on this, interviews are not books. Such a terribly sad case. A whole family of narcissists. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ She was smart and beautiful and had family, she didnt need him. That only happens when youre not serious about the wedding. Love your take. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. As Shanann asked her too. Cindy Watts mouth turns upside down when she speaks of Shannan in videos. only a fraction of the reality? The grew up in a low class family. CW looks miserable on his wedding day whilst she looks elated she has her whole family there after all. No damn way. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. If you dont get a chill, then I must be out to lunch. They were fighting, money problems ,being sued by the homeowners association. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. Lets listen: CINDY: I dontseewhy hes pleading guilty. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? No excuse for murder none at all. She didnt stir the shit enough was her problem. Wow..I think that you, like Cindy Watts, do not understand how dangerous a nut allergy is. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. That likely would have changed everything. The Rzucek family are weird as well. It doesnt end here. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who mana. Zoom in on his eyes. You misfit husband and misfit daughter are the only ones who could and can. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Two camps. Sure gets ones mind in thinking mode! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_-nUnbIgTU. Email In Touch at contact@intouchweekly.com. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. JAMIE left numerous times after high school and would always move back home. Ditto, Nan. Shananns the root of evil? His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. That is a losing battle. It was hard on his father when he CHRIS left because his father was used to him CHRIS always being around. I think he hated Shanann at the moment he killed her. I agree there are basically two camps one pro Shanann and one pro Chris. Your stories not over. Her version is a very twisted version. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. Okay? Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. Then to as far as I am aware, there was a baby shower, that Cindy and Jamie had for Shanann, I,ve seen pictures of it. Thats ridiculous . The constant bashing of Shanann. But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. I wouldnt. I know she didnt attend the court sentencing etc. His father Clifford Entwistle has just written a book saying hes innocent, they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. Sometimes one person needs to step up and start doing it instead of waiting for the *other person* to. In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. Bullshit. Whats more, Cindy Watts, 64, claims her son has immense public support noting she doesnt care about the murders. Expect a lot of aggression and animosity from the Shanann camp. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. Maybe one day?. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. And learn about all teh times they bashed Shanann in front of her and behind her back. I have a daughter in law, in my opinion the greater onus is on me to get along with her. The text messages where she almost expects Chris to be reading her mindoverall there are just a lot of red flags that tell me she was likely a very toxic partner. Youre right, many comparisons to be made. There are no sides in this tragedy. The one where Cici had turned around and I got a really good close up picture of her and I used that, 64-year-old Cindy said. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? When something needs to be done, *someone* needs to do it. Okay? Thank you! Many people dont understand the severity of nut allergies. I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. All their old friends have said the same thing. I think the pro Shanann camp needs to remember that discussing WHY Chris killed Shanann is NOT justifying what he did. I do not condone the murders but i can see why this terrible disaster happened. As for being attracted to Nichol Kessinger I can see why she is Gorgeous and unfortunately too often people go by looks and forget about character. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. No, you dont get that she had a problem. August 1, 2018: Chris Watts' First Day in North Carolina #1yearagotodayCW. I am a family therapist and wondered exactly the same. She had many faults within herself. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. And his father enabled it. His father struggled with substance abuse after he CHRIS moved out. A similar dynamic seems to have played out in the Watts family, minus the privileged status. It was a very pretty shower. Granted I was only 15 when I married but I was married 20 years but we still had a great relationship until she passed, and I have 1 daughter-in-law and its the same way. But it does change the dynamics Especially when you consider that Cindy couldnt be gracious enough to attend her own sons wedding. He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. We support you 100%. What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? I do suspend any judgement on Shanann. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. That said, Im not sure I understand the camp [besides the family] who are championing the cause of Chris Watts. 20K views, 82 likes, 21 loves, 980 comments, 173 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Your Content: Featuring Colorado Killer Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn. I grew up in upper middle class. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. Read shanann watts mothers statement in discovery about other incidents. We love you and forgive you, son., As for Ronnie, he said that he forgave his son for his actions too. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I think they were allowed video calls, though. It falls apart even further when you consider he didnt only kill Shanann, but terminated the pregnancy and also killed his own children. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. A child can die from eating even the tiniest piece of nut. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. We just love you. I have been able to skim through the 2,000 pages of investigation notes. And I think years of being just the nice guy to go along with everything and being bossed around and feeling so small like he didnt really have a say, Im sure had a profound impact on his mental health coupled with the fact that he allegedly wasnt excited to have another baby and didnt really love being a dad as much as he claimed. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. Passive aggressive and it smacks of Cindys influence. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. 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